1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 We were being played, UFO was playing tag with us. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Really? 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Yeah. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 How many of you are up there? 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:18,000 We got four pilots, two pilot, co-pilot and two EMTs. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Jesus Christ, when did this happen? 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 About 45 minutes ago. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 I just got down and into town. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Like I said, now this is sort of strange because our magnetic compass was going crazy, gyro compass was going crazy, 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:39,000 our OME was crazy, couldn't raise anything, transmit nothing on the radio. 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,000 We just generalized messing up all our controls. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Can you give it to me right from the beginning? 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Okay, I had an earlier flight, took off at five o'clock. 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:04,000 We were buzzing around for two and a half hours, sat down for fuel, go back up, just keep our flight books. 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:17,000 And about seven o'clock, we were about halfway in between Seattle and Bonnville, 16 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,000 in that area, going back to Paine, sat down for the night. 17 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Then we started getting playing. 18 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Ted UFO came out from our starboard side and downward, started doing loop-to-loops around us. 19 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:40,000 And it would go off maybe two, three miles up in front of us and come back straight at us in its last possible moment, 20 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 go underneath us. 21 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:49,000 And it happened, doing it for about ten minutes, we just kept on moving straight back to Paine. 22 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Right. 23 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:56,000 In the meantime, I was on the radio trying to get a patch through to you, reported while in progress. 24 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Unfortunately, that's when I noticed that radio wasn't working, or intercoms were static in the intercoms. 25 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Intercoms tied through the radio anyway. 26 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:16,000 And then I looked down on the panels and noticed a few of the controls were starting to go crazy. 27 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Okay, but kind of playing when you're flying. 28 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Helicopter H-U-3-H. 29 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 How many aboard? 30 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Four. 31 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Do you have the names of the other people? 32 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,000 I've got the names and I've got them right in the passenger space right now. 33 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Okay. Are we going to be able to get those other witnesses? 34 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 I don't think there were any other witnesses other than the crew members. 35 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Well, that's what I mean. I mean, are we going to get a list of those guys? 36 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Yeah, plus the signage for an after-date is Avis. 37 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Okay, for viewing. Now, I got your address like mail them out to you when I get a hold of them. 38 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Okay. Nobody had a camera, huh? 39 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,000 It was just a routine flight, you know, just keep our books up. 40 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 If we were up there looking for something, 10 to 1, somebody would have a camera. 41 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Yeah. 42 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Well, like just looking at it without the infrared scope glasses that we have, you know, the goggles. 43 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:21,000 And it was a white luminous object in an egg. 44 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:27,000 It was in like an egg shape with the pointed ed flying forward. 45 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Okay. 46 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 And like that. 47 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:38,000 We weren't reaching on the onboard radar. We weren't returning anything. 48 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Did you talk to anybody on the ground about it? 49 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Not until we touched down. 50 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 I didn't get anything on radar either. 51 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 No, our onboard radar wasn't returning anything. 52 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 We were, we had a couple airplanes that we were showing. 53 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,000 What we didn't, but the onboard wouldn't register the UFO. 54 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Okay. Any visual estimate of the size? 55 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:08,000 I'd say, you know, not eight feet long, three and a half feet, four feet high. 56 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Okay. How close do you think it got to you? 57 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,000 I'd say within 50 feet easy. 58 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Did this interference, wekponic and instrument interference continue until this thing moved away? 59 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Yeah. It was, just as soon as the thing took back off into the clouds, everything cleared up. 60 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Which direction was it heading when she went out? 61 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Northwest. 62 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Okay. Is that the way it came in? 63 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Well, it came in from the southeast. 64 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Southeast. 65 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:52,000 We were flying in the magnetic north at that time, trying to clear through the sea tax pattern. 66 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Yes. Okay. What was your estimated altitude? 67 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Well, first of all, there was no reaction to the UFO on our altimeter. 68 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,000 And we were flying at 1500. 69 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Okay. Could you give me another rundown regarding the maneuverability of this thing? 70 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,000 I would just, first of all, was doing circles completely around it. 71 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Uh-huh. 72 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:27,000 You know, it's maybe, oh, the perimeter, yeah, doing loops around it at about the distance of the prop of our rotors. 73 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,000 So it was like 10, 15 feet off our rotors. 74 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,000 And then just going to look like somebody drew a compass. 75 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 With a compass, drew a circle. 76 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 It was like a perfect circle around it. 77 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 And then it just took off straight ahead, straight at it. 78 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 It had to have been flying at 1500, coming straight at it. 79 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,000 It was like 6, 700 yards in front of us. It ducked under it. 80 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Ducked under you, okay. 81 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Did anybody see it as it ducked under and came out the stern? 82 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Well, we don't have any windows in the stern, so I just went open, snapped my belt, my safety belt on, and snapped open the door. 83 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,000 And what it did was, it zapped like the second pass. 84 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I see. 85 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Without, it flew, came up under us, back up to 1500, and then, like, did it. 86 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,000 It flew from one over the top of it, came back, turned out to run. 87 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Okay. Could we get your telephone number again? 88 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 I'm at the Marshall Police Department. We don't have our phone in yet. 89 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 I'll just say, okay. 90 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Who was in charge of that flight? 91 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Me. 92 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Okay. 93 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Did, uh, you say anything when you landed? 94 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 I mean, did you report this to the people up there? 95 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Oh, I went up to the, up to the tower and found out if they had anything on radar and how it was just about it. 96 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Uh-huh. 97 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,000 And I told the guys on the other, on our flight to sign up in half a day, 98 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:04,000 but you sign it and get it to me as soon as possible so that I can get them back, get them out to you. 99 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Great. 100 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Okay. Well, we sure appreciate the report. 101 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Right. 102 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,000 You're the lucky one. 103 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Yeah, I'll have some, I'll probably get them in the mail with them by Saturday. 104 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Oh, we sure appreciate that. 105 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Because I'm not sure, but Friday night, we might call for another flight. 106 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Uh-huh. 107 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Okay. 108 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Okay. 109 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Thanks a lot. 110 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Yeah. 111 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Right. 112 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,000 See you later, Bob. 113 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 Bye.